Harry Potter IV - The Goblet of Fire

Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:30 pm

I went to see this film yesterday (Sunday) and thought that the film was generally good. I think the films will generally start to suffer from the fact that the storys are getting longer. In some cases this film suffered this that same. The Quiddich world cup scene was rather short and cramped and I don't think there was enough emphasis on the fact people were suspicious of Mr Potter in the early stages of the film and thought that he was new Death Eater!

On to the good points! The film was entertaining and relatively close to the written story. I especially like the Moody scenes, I thought that the build up for his character was especialy strong. All in all I would give this film:

Moderately entertaining. I have to admit my perspective might be scewed by the onset of a migraine (which occured, annoyingly, at 4am this morning

) So please add your thoughts here.

I also thought that this film was very, very dark. Not quite and sinister as Batman but I do think that the film had a low age warning for its content. It also took ?14.1m in the first 3 days which is a UK best ever!

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:32 pm

I loved it !!!!

Lots of Harry Potter type fun!!

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:06 pm

shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit,shit, shit, shit, shit, shit,
shitty-shitty shit shit.

a pox on harry potter. i hope the bastard's wand drops off.

Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 5:29 pm

Have you even seen the film????

:?

TAOWBST · Post by **TAOWBST** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 8:25 pm

Looking foward to seeing it. Won't go until the crowds die down in a few weeks though. I agree with you about the length,Mike. Imagine what Order of the Phoenix or Half Blood Prince will be like.

mr_e · Post by **mr_e** » Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:40 pm

Maybe Fez is looking at it from a literary perspective...I so can't believe I fell asleep after texting you about going. Meh. Oh, well. I can't say I was too fussed either way, but I did miss pick and mix :*(

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:32 am

Don't knock it till you try it that's what I think !!!

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:13 am

i don't have to try putting my dick in a blender to know its a bad idea - in this case i don't have to watch the film to know i wont like it. i'm sorry, i hate children's films and literature, and always have done

Post by **Mike** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:18 pm

Fez wrote:i don't have to try putting my dick in a blender to know its a bad idea - in this case i don't have to watch the film to know i wont like it. i'm sorry, i hate children's films and literature, and always have done

How about 'The Hobbit'? I am curious more than anything.

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:53 pm

i know i did enjoy both the hobbit and lord of the rings when i was younger, however, i'm not the sentimental type and honestly i don't like either anymore. when i was thirteen the wordy, naive style was wonderful - now it reads like limp overblown prose from an author who was in bad need of a decent editor.

Post by **Mike** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:09 pm

I think I read somewhere that JRR Tolkien was not the easiest person to work with, I think the editing period, as it stood, took about 15 years! It is interesting to hear a literary opinion on the book, my opinion in this area tend to be rather lacking in formal education.

In fact, digressing slightly, English is the one thing that I think is really lacking in my general education since High School. I think if I had been able to spell proper (

) like the rest of you my English education would probably have been better. That said Fez was educated the same streaming system, same set and happilly went on to a degree in English, hum, so maybe it is just my ego talking!

Discuss. . . . . ? :?

Claire · Post by **Claire** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:54 pm

I enjoyed the Harry Potter film and don't feel too obliged to qualify that statement - nothing like a bit of magical realism. However, i will leap to the defence of Professor Tolkien, of whom i am a passionate admirer. If someone's literary taste dictates that JRR is overly sentimental then s/he must be pretty jaded and could probably do with settling down with a good Roald Dahl book. Might i suggest Matilda? I've always said that i'm glad i didn't read LOTRs and The Hobbit until i was older because i don't think i would have appreciated the craft of the novels when i was younger. Plus it is interesting to appreciate how Anglo-Saxon and Norse mythology informed the work (which i only learnt on my degree).
And finally...
Fez...
...might i suggest "shit x47" next time. It would be far more economical. Genuine opinion should not involve ranting! (Rant over.

)

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:20 am

the long list of shits was easily created with cut and paste - no point in labouring over something i was only being flippant about in the first place.

when i used to work in the library at golborne primary, i actually insisted on trying to get the kids to read as much rohl dalh as possible - for someone who not all that long ago said he wasn't sentimental, i do fondly remember reading both the witches and the twits, the poems were fab too - particularly that one about the crocodile. i do want the children to read this stuff, but don't think i'll get anything out of it now except some pleasant memories.

(however, while at the library i started reading the poems of ogdon nash - now he's a funny poet, and the horrible histories books too - the subject was never made as intersting when i was at school!)

my disfavour of tolkien now is purely stylistical - the hobbit formed the basis of my reading outside of school when i was ten and i will freely admit to the fact if i hadn't enjoyed it so much then i may not have sold my soul so willing to the study of english literature later on. i do think lord of the rings is far too long and a good editor could have made it two thirds the length - whether this would have lost the greater impact is debatable - come on, how seriously did the book really need the fight for the shire at the end? tolkien just didn't know when to stop.

as for harry potter...i've had an irritional hatred of it since the books first came out - it's good that j k rowling has got so many children reading, but for some reason its the popularity with adults i've always found hard to stomach. i don't even really know why. i've had a flick through the first book and didn't find anything to interest me, i seriously don't see what the fuss is about for anyone beyond the age of wearing school uniforms.

but when i was at school we read to Kill A Mocking Bird - stories about wizards just don't compare.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:16 pm

I know I hate it when people say this but.

The first Harry Potter book was nothing to write home about. I like the newer books more. I fell into the trap when Liz B said "The first one is Okay but they get better" and I thought to have an informed opinion I should read them all and somewhere along the line I suddenly started to enjoy them. Very odd isnt it, I will be the first to admit I held the same opinions as Fez until I had read the books.

Claire · Post by **Claire** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:29 pm

Anyone out there who doesn't like to kill a mockingbird? had the pleasure of teaching it on teaching practice. Marvellous book. Oh, shit - this isn't the hit list discussion is it?! nevermind