How Psychic are you?

Post by **Mike** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:03 am

What is the freakyest Psychic moment you have had in your life? I am talking about the times where you accurately guess the future, It could be in terms of minutes, hours or years; Do you ever say exactly the same thing / at the same time as someone else etc.

I have three incidents in mind.
1) I am constantly thinking or saying something at the same time as Lizzie.

2) When I was on holiday with my Parents we were out walking and saw a cat run accross the path, with the same tone, intonation and at the same time both my Dad said the same phrase.

3) I was driving around the other day and suddenly pulled over and took my phone out because I knew someone was about to ring me. It turned out to be my Mum!

And the final question - is this pyschic or not???

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:44 am

Mike and I found some old shoe laces in our loft. Both of us had the feeling at the same time that we shouldn't throw them out - that they were somehow part of our house !!

Also- Mike reckons he saw a cup move on it's own. Personally, I am dubious !!! I think he was winding me up.

Thirdly - Mike closed the car door with the 'power of his mind' once !! Yeah right !!!

As you can see Mr Riley is a budding psychic !!

Post by **Mike** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:07 pm

Lizzie wrote:Also- Mike reckons he saw a cup move on it's own. Personally, I am dubious !!! I think he was winding me up.

I had forgotten about that one. I was not winding you up but I did not claim to have made the cup move.

Lizzie wrote:Thirdly - Mike closed the car door with the 'power of his mind' once !! Yeah right !!!

I did claim that one, I have no other explaination for why the car door closed. We were not on a slope, I had not moved the door, only opened it normally (IE not excessively vigorously and it bounced back!) I was only seriously worried that it would be hit by a passing car, it was seriously wierd!

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:32 pm

Are you still winding me up ?? Or do you really believe those events were 'psychic' ?

I'm confused !!!

Post by **johnriley1uk** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:42 pm

I tend to get dreams that then happen, maybe years later. Nothing drastic, but just small events, phrases, or just being in a place that has all the physical features of places seen in dreams.

For someone who resists the idea of psychic experiences, I sure have a lot of them. Old houses can be a nightmare....And objects....

I remember crossing on the ferry to the Isle of Arran. It was beautiful, the sea sparkling with light, the island brooding in silent splendour on the horizon, the sea mist caressing the view with its ethereal tendrils...And the moment I set foot on the island, I wanted to get right back on the ferry and leave. I hated the place, and I never (say never?) hate places like that. Strange, eh?

mr_e · Post by **mr_e** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:28 pm

Putting my deliberately sceptical hat on here:

Mike wrote:1) I am constantly thinking or saying something at the same time as Lizzie.

You're engaged to her, so you probably do think the same as her a lot. Do you remember all those times you didn't think the same thing as her?

Mike wrote:2) When I was on holiday with my Parents we were out walking and saw a cat run accross the path, with the same tone, intonation and at the same time both my Dad said the same phrase.

He helped raise you (I hope), so you probably picked it up from him.

Mike wrote:3) I was driving around the other day and suddenly pulled over and took my phone out because I knew someone was about to ring me. It turned out to be my Mum!

Maybe you heard interference on the car radio, or felt the electromagnetics, being the sensitive person you are.

Most psychic experiences have a lot to do with selective memory. Some are still freaky, though, as number three there can't easily be explained. However, I do believe there is some vague holistic connection, along the lines of Gaia theory.

Chrissie · Post by **Chrissie** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:24 pm

(a) After knowing my boss for a short time I was able to know what he was thinking and even answer questions a second before he asked them. I ended up doing so much, including to other people in the office, that it really started to freak him out to the extent that he was thinking of fashioning a lead hat to keep me from hearing his thoughts.
In the end I pretended to feign ignorance and even tho I know what he's thinking, I don't tell him.

(b) I've also managed to turn on a kettle in the office kitchen over a metre away by looking at it and thinking I really should switch that on, then was so freaked out I wished it would turn off...and it did?!

There was even a witness...my boss...he fears me now, tee-hee!

TAOWBST · Post by **TAOWBST** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:35 pm

(b) I've also managed to turn on a kettle in the office kitchen over a metre away by looking at it and thinking I really should switch that on, then was so freaked out I wished it would turn off...and it did?!
There was even a witness...my boss...he fears me now, tee-hee!

Faulty wiring.

mr_e · Post by **mr_e** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:34 pm

Playing Devil's advocate again.

Chrissie wrote:(a) After knowing my boss for a short time I was able to know what he was thinking and even answer questions a second before he asked them. I ended up doing so much, including to other people in the office, that it really started to freak him out to the extent that he was thinking of fashioning a lead hat to keep me from hearing his thoughts.
In the end I pretended to feign ignorance and even tho I know what he's thinking, I don't tell him.

I do actually now fear you, because your boss either has really obvious body language, or you may very good at reading people (or this particular person). It is possible to do, based on careful observation. You probably don't realise what you're doing, whereas someone like Derren Brown employs similar techniques, but knows very well how he does it. "Counting" animals also rely on similar tiny signals from their owners to know when to stop tapping (that was proved in studies, too).
Edit: I should also add that psychological patterning probably plays a role here too. I still fear Chrissie.

Chrissie wrote:(b) I've also managed to turn on a kettle in the office kitchen over a metre away by looking at it and thinking I really should switch that on, then was so freaked out I wished it would turn off...and it did?!
There was even a witness...my boss...he fears me now, tee-hee!

Coincidence. Repeat it at will and I'll believe you.

Mostly explainable, but thought-provoking nonetheless.

Post by **Mike** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:17 am

mr_e wrote:Most psychic experiences have a lot to do with selective memory. Some are still freaky, though, as number three there can't easily be explained. However, I do believe there is some vague holistic connection, along the lines of Gaia theory.

In answer: Sensitivity to electromagnetic radiation, pyschic - either way this is just a different, slightly more precice way, of describing the same thing. We are litereally just electomagnetic fields ourselves so it should be possible to use our own bodies to sense other electomagnetic fields by how the alter our perception (read EM field).

As for thinking the same thing at the same time as others around me I tend to do this consistently with quite a few people - one explaination is that I do read their body language (like you mention in response to Chrissie). Another is that I surround myself with others of a like minded personalities or am familiar enought with the other person that I remember select parts of their behaviour from the past and associate this with a current event. Either way it is an unconsious ability, for want of a better word, and could still be described as pyschic.

Chrissie wrote:(b) I've also managed to turn on a kettle in the office kitchen over a metre away by looking at it and thinking I really should switch that on, then was so freaked out I wished it would turn off...and it did?!
There was even a witness...my boss...he fears me now, tee-hee!

I personally think that people can alter things with their mind - when in times of increased stress or great desire (you must REALLY, REALLY like tea!). This is a personal opinion with no scientific support but lets be honest 500 years ago people believing the world round were laughted at!

The thing that I think holds back the imagination/comprehension for these events and prevents reoccurance is fear. Unconsious fear keeps the mind from seeing things that would worry it. For example the spouse who fails to see their partner as a murderer, a child who waves to what an adult supposes as empty air, etc.

A good way to test pyschic ness is to try and guess what is going to occur next in a random sequence. I have found that when I try to do this I fail, when I don't try I am at least 75% accurate. It is a total dycotomy, when I realise I am guessing corrently it becomes unraveled!

Long winded explaination of Mikes thoery on the supernatural finished (breath a sigh of relief!)

:D

Lizzie · Post by **Lizzie** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:27 am

Mr- e mentioned Derren Brown, which reminds me - did anyone see that programme where he got people to commit an armed robbery just with mind control.

I only caught the end - but it seemed the general idea was that he could turn someone to crime using Michael Jackson, some freaky symbol and the colour green. 3 out of the 4 of them actually commited the crime when presented with these triggers. Freaky !!!

Did anyone else see it ?? Was there anymore to it than that ?? I'm fascinated now - and sorry that I missed the majority of the programme.

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:58 pm

hearing michael jackson makes me want to commit crime too - generally smashing the nearest stereo into thousands of little pieces. i call it involentary criminal damage due to diminished responsibility.

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:37 pm

Mike, me and Rowenna think the same things a lot of the time, we are bound to do. It happened in Dunham Massey the other day, there was a walk that went straight on or one that went left - we both instantly said words to the effect of ''left''. We aren't psychic, we were just tired, it was raining and we couldn't be bothered walking all the way round the park.

On the subject of Derren Brown, I just do not believe anything that bloke says. That one about 'Russian Roulette' was an absolute joke. The gun fired on number five and not earlier. Of course the bloke wasn't going to fire and stopped at 3. The gun that he used is probably one that you can determine where it will stop in a sequence - Derren simply placed it in either 4, 5, or 6. There is no way that Derren was going to place it in the first three because then the bloke would not have fired, if he had, then it would have been interesting TV. The bloke is a confidence trickster and uses mind control. If you have a look at his website it says

''.....combination of psychological illusion, perceptual manipulation and persuasive technique has pioneered a new form of magical entertainment,''

He is just very skillful at doing his job. The words and phrases that a person uses can determine how you accept something. I've watched a couple of his shows - Russian Roulette and the Seance - and he uses many, many good examples of persuasive and emotive language. He also uses very good positive body language.

Our gas fire was turning itself off randomly last week. When it happened was when we sat next to it. Now, was it the ghost of Christmas Past? Am I psychic? Do my flames represent a living being? Is my gas fire from B+Q possessed? No, the connection port was loose. I took the laminate floor up, the floorboards up, sorted it out, gas fire never not worked since. I also agree with Fez, Michael Jackson would make me commit a crime.

Oh and another thing, this could have gone in the ''most famous person I have ever met'' but I think it is better in here. Rowenna's mum met Uri Gellar once, she shouted his name, he turned round and apparently slipped slightly on a half-eaten sandwich/some food or other. I bet the ''psychic'' was not expecting that! Anyway, he signed a napkin for her, don't ask me why. I'd have made him sign a spoon, that would have been fun, I'd have given it to him squashed up and said ''bend it back''. Tee hee. :D

Post by **Mike** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:10 pm

I don't think Andy believed in Pyschic abilities!

:D

Post by **johnriley1uk** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:15 pm

So more people think they have above average psychic abilities.

I knew that would happen....

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